Jordan Zarembo, no, the ICEL 1973 version of the Roman Canon is not a paraphrase but a translation using dynamic equivalence, and the translators issued a whole booklet published by Burns and Oates explaining their translation choices line by line. I had it memorized and loved hearing it on the high holy days and sprinkled here and there on Ordinary Sundays. V. Let us give thanks to the Lord our God. I love and relate deeply to English with Latin syntax. Two points, if I may : My issue with the new translation is not that it is impersonal or formal or hieratic but that, in far too many cases, it bears little resemblance to any previous form of English – modern English, Cranmerian English, etc. I’m going to keep a record of any serious comments made and may try, in the light of those, to make a further text in future. R. It is right and just. to present for comment. As for us, your ministers, sinners who hope in your abundant mercy, grant us of your goodness a share in the fellowship of your holy apostles and martyrs: with John the Baptist, Stephen, Matthias, Barnabas, Ignatius, Alexander, Marcellinus, Peter, Felicity, Perpetua, Agatha, Lucy, Agnes, Cecilia, Anastasia and all your saints. His Spirit is with us. Jordan Zarembo : What benefit is there is hearing the discrete words of the eucharistic prayer? Holy, Holy (the "Sanctus"; based on the praise of the Seraphim in Isa 6:3 and Rev 4:8): People: And with thy spirit. Hosanna in the highest. 1 In the Communicantes. In this prayer, the celebrant acts in the person of Christ as head of his body, the Church. Eucharistic Prayer for Masses with Children I Using the New Translation of the Roman Missal _____ The priest begins the Eucharistic Prayer. Calvin Symposium on Worship 2021 – Online and Free! The ICEL translation we abandoned was perfect and captured the spirit and movement of this beautiful prayer; all subsequent messing around with it is getting nobody anywhere. Born into the human family, and dwelling among us, he revealed your glory. Contents. Prayers that were once alive are twisted and complex. Eucharistic Prayer 1 from Enriching our Worship. Lift up your hearts. Liturgy and Sacraments. We hold in memory his blessed passion, his resurrection from the dead and his glorious ascension into heaven. We lift them to the Lord. This clashes somewhat with your attempt to shorten the sentences à la 1973. Eucharistic Prayer II. Let us give thanks to the Lord our God. All: And with your spirit Priest: Lift up your hearts. What’s wrong with semi-colons? @Ian Coleman – comment #44: The Lord be with you. It was the absolute work of the Spirit. g Je sus Christ is Lord: g we pro claim your death, Lord Je sus, un til you come in glo ry. People: We lift them up unto the Lord. I find it quite interesting that some liturgically progressive Catholics and some liturgically traditionalist Catholics can both be pietists, but in starkly different ways. Lift up your hearts: We lift them to the Lord. This, then, Lord, is the offering of our service and that of your whole household. Eucharistic Prayer I. Liturgical Press | School of Theology • Seminary | Saint John's Abbey | Comments Policy | Contact Us In the Missale Romanum (2002/2007), other Eucharistic Answer: At Mass, we are usually used to the four main Eucharistic Prayers. What Is This Eucharistic Prayer? It is right to give thanks and praise. A point sometimes made is that it is not easy to hear and understand them. @Jordan Zarembo – comment #21: Yesterday. Amen. It is part of the heritage of all Roman Catholics, which is why Vatican II mandated that the faithful know at least part of the Mass in Latin. The new translation treats Lit Auth in so cavalier a fashion that there can be few who support both. Given that miniscule letters turned up relatively late in the Latin alphabet (around 800 I think — but I welcome correction on this) I have never understood Liturgiam Authenticam §33, “The use of capitalization in the liturgical texts of the Latin editiones typicae as well as in the liturgical translation of the Sacred Scriptures, for honorific or otherwise theologically significant reasons, is to be retained in the vernacular language at least insofar as the structure of a given language permits.”. No wonder we need to told by the rubric not to impose hands at this point: it feels the natural thing to do! We lift them to the Lord. Your email address will not be published. James Anthony Del Rosario, na magdidiwang ng kanyang 7th Presbyteral Anniversary. Hosanna in the highest. Sheet Music and video tutorials on the New Eucharistic Prayers for priests. Through him we ask you to accept and bless these gifts we offer you in sacrifice. To you, most merciful Father, with reverence we pray through Jesus Christ, your Son our Lord. It is truly right, and good and joyful, to give you thanks, … To these, Lord, and to all who rest in Christ, we ask you to give a place of repose and light and peace. Jack Feehily : Some folks at the Vatican thought that capitalizing certain words makes them more sacred or reverent. And for all who will receive the most holy body and blood of your Son in this communion at the altar, let them be filled with all the blessings and gifts of heaven. The Eucharistic Prayer is the heart of the Liturgy of the Eucharist. Finally, what we really need,I believe, is updated books (new sanctoral, prefaces, etc.) All: It is right and just ‘ seems to imply that ‘meritis precibusque’ is ablative. within the Eucharistic Prayer and to set out more clearly the dif - ferent facets of the mystery of salvation” (364). Grant that we who share these gifts may be filled with the Holy Spirit and live as Christ’s Body in the world. ‘Prayability’ is, perhaps, being over-emphasised in many of the above comments. http://www.icelweb.org/musicfolder/openmusic.phphttp://www.musicasacra.com/ We used to capitalise more words than we do today. Chuck Liturgiam Authenticam into the garbage bin and move those “graciously grants” and “chalices” into an appendix, but for heaven’s sake let English and other languages fly I say. Jordan Zarembo is right about Latin. A silent Canon does not impede grace and sanctification. The action verbs appear mostly right at the beginning of the paragraphs: “We offer to you”… “Remember, Lord…” “We venerate…” “Accept this offering (1998)… ” “Bless this offering…” “We celebrate the memory (1973)…” etc. For me and for so much in the Church it really isn’t either/or but both/and. Bravo! ), We celebrate the most sacred night (day) when blessed Mary the immaculate Virgin brought forth the Saviour for this world, and we venerate …, We celebrate the most sacred day on which your Only-Begotten Son who is eternal with you in your glory, appeared in a human body, truly sharing our flesh, and we venerate …, We celebrate the most sacred night (day) of the resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ in the flesh, and we venerate …, We celebrate the most sacred day on which your Only-Begotten Son, our Lord, placed at the right hand of your glory our frail human nature which he had united to himself, and we venerate …, We celebrate the most sacred day of Pentecost, on which the Holy Spirit appeared to the apostles in tongues of fire, and we venerate …. Admire your effort, though, to consider an improved text. Without getting these verbs lost in distracting clauses and phrases (as in the later translations), a dialogic movement is produced between the praying bodies and God. Eucharistic Prayer For Priests . Priests need to surrender to the text offered for prayer, not seek to improve it. And also with you. 1973 had ‘May their merits and prayers gain us’. With deep reverence we ask you, almighty God: command that these gifts be carried by the hands of your holy angel to your altar on high in the sight of your divine majesty. It is truly right, and good and joyful, to give you thanks, all-holy God, source of life and fountain of mercy. (Through Christ our Lord, Amen). It is right to give our thanks and praise. Lift up your hearts. Some will notice that some of the original intentions of the Prayer Book versions have been diluted. Personally, I now believe that the mistake made in the ’60s was to adapt and translate at the same time. or The Lord is here. Those responsible for the official translation were clearly not entirely comfortable with it, since they failed to capitalise ‘victim’, despite their love of capitalisation in general and their capitalisation of ‘Victim’ elsewhere. I have several misgivings, but don’t want to comment before trying the text a number of times more. I appreciate Fr Griffith’s effort to seek some middle ground between 2011 and 1973. The People may join in saying this prayer. ), and all gathered here, whose faith and devotion are known to you. They could be capitalizing the words as a way of showing their significance to the one(s) reading the texts. Our sacred authors constantly led their communities into areas few had entered before. Neither way of life is without fault. I do, though, disagree fully with Matthew Hazell’s critique in comment no. The anaphora (Eucharistic prayer) of the Latin-rite Church is first recorded in a work entitled “The Apostolic Tradition,” attributed to Hippolytus of Rome, and which scholars traditionally accept as having been composed around the year A.D. 215. 2.1 The text; In the Communicantes The text. And perhaps the time to do that is now, before gnostic and idolatrous influences chase more believers into the arms of the evangelicals, or worse, the nones. I think both aims can be realised, but would not presume to pretend that mine is anything more than a starter, and there are many other people with greater gifts than I have in this field. Lit (!!) His Spirit is with us. Listen to the Psalmist unless the time of a most parching intellectual drought arrives. Eucharistic Prayer IV, however, should always be used with the preface printed above.) Lift up your hearts. We lift them to the Lord. And from your gifts bestowed on us we offer to your glory and majesty the pure victim, the holy victim, the perfect victim: the holy bread of eternal life and the chalice of everlasting salvation. Protestants have long claimed that Catholics place mediators other than Christ between God and humanity, despite 1 Tim 2:5. If anything, the contemporary fad for imitating Latin word-for-word shows up just how unsuitable the Latinate overlord/cringing-serf imagery and resultant “ecclesiastical Babu” language is for contemporary inculturated worship. Never touched Hebrew, except when I was working with multiple Biblical translations for 3 years in the mid-1990s on a group project for a small intentional Catholic church community guided in part by a Jesuit scripture scholar). The BCP includes eight eucharistic prayers: two for Rite 1 (pp. I’m going to sit back now and see who comes up with a more credible one. Order our days in your peace, bid us be freed from eternal condemnation and counted among the flock of those you have chosen. Remember, O Lord, against the Edomites the day of Jerusalem’s fall, how they said, ‘Tear it down! But we failed to honor your image in one another and in ourselves; we would not see your goodness in the world around us; and so we violated your creation, abused one another, and rejected your love. but just to see whether some more speakable version could be made which tries to be as faithful to the Latin as possible. Celebrant Lift up your hearts. 1. Now that explanation is a pure guess. Absurd given the botched version foisted on the Church. Your email address will not be published. I respect your view. The Missale Romanum does not support this charge, but its official English translation does so abundantly. German retains the capitalization of all nouns. Remembering his death and resurrection, we now present to you from your creation this bread and this wine. Thanks Jeffrey! Eucharistic Celebration Jesus, Eucharistic Lord, I praise you and adore you, with all my brothers and sisters throughout the world, here in the sacrament of your Most Holy Body and Blood that we are celebrating, united with You to offer it to the Father as a sacrifice of praise and thanksgiving. The Lord be with you. I’m thinking of a paraphrase of Syndrome’s taunt in The Incredibles: When everything is capitalized then nothing will be. Would “raising his eyes heavenward to you, O God” work? Some would prefer ‘the’ to ‘a’, to indicate that there is only one pure, holy and perfect sacrifice, but I am content with the indefinite article, which is what is used in the first paragraph of EP3 – ‘a pure sacrifice may be offered’. It is right to give him thanks and praise. Vatican II proclaimed that Mass should be in the vernacular of the people. We beg you, admit us into their company, not considering what we deserve but granting us your forgiveness. In this prayer, the lines in italics are spoken by the People. The prayer must be considered in its totality. My point is not to say, “It’s you, not me,” but to impress upon others that wrapping oneself in the mantle of orthodoxy does not absolve one from error. We offer them in union with your servant N. our pope and N. our bishop, with all who worship you in truth and serve the Catholic and apostolic faith. At all. Those ICEL bods in the 1960s knew a thing or two. Many conservatives throw around heretical terms and presume it’s always somebody else, especially postmodernists. Honestly, I don’t think your translation is going to do much for those who are negatively disposed to the 2011 translation of the Roman Canon. It is right and just. 1 The reference to Huldah in Supplementary Eucharistic Prayer 1 (S1) is an example. This, then, Lord, is the offering of our service and that of your whole household. The celebrant was using the Eucharistic Prayers for Various Needs or the Eucharistic Prayers for Reconciliation. We lift them to the Lord. This ideological dogma is merely a subterfuge to enforce a wholesale dismissal of our Catholic liturgical heritage and our sacral language. But he is also wearing a hat topped with a propeller, as well as a necklace of brass bells. How much bother could have been avoided if accurate translations into English had, ad interim, been allowed at Mass for everything. The Eucharistic Prayers for Reconciliation may be used in Masses in which the mystery of reconciliation is conveyed to the faithful in a special way, as, for example, in the Masses for Promoting Harmony, For Reconciliation, For the Preservation of Peace and Justice, In Time of War or Civil Disturbance, For the Forgiveness of Sins,… Sheet Music Eucharistic Prayer I – Proper Forms of the Communicantes and Hanc Igitur Eucharistic Prayer I (Solemn Tone) Eucharistic Prayer II Eucharistic Prayer III Eucharistic Prayer IV Video Tutorials Huldah appears towards the end of the Second Book of Kings, in connection with the reforms of King Josiah. I won’t forget them! Eucharistic Prayer B – The Great Thanksgiving. Lift up your hearts. Now, if I hear it once a year, on Holy Thursday, that is more than enough. We come to you, Father, with praise and thanksgiving. And one of the great criticisms of LA was the promotion of languages of colonial oppressors. The Roman Canon prayed in Latin with all its rubrical gestures and in a low voice is striking in the sense that those present, priest and laity realize this is prayer to God in the “holy of holies.” The gestures speak volumes and quite loudly although the prayer is hushed and in the elegance of the Latin vernacular. I tried to self-teach myself German in high school, and then took a year of Latin in college; while I can transliterate Greek reasonably, due to all the ancient and church history sidebars I encountered, I never took Greek. Do this in memory of me.’. Then follows the Preface to be used in accord with the rubrics, which concludes: holy, holy, holy Lord God of … You make them holy and fill them with life, you bless them and bestow them on us. I may not benefit as much as others by hearing the words of the eucharistic prayer, but that does not mean that no one ever benefits. Eucharistic Prayer IV: We give you praise, Father most holy, for you are great and you have fashioned all your works in wisdom and in love… In addition, there are two Eucharistic Prayers for Reconciliation and four Eucharistic Prayers for Various Needs. Some folks at the Vatican thought that capitalizing certain words makes them more sacred or reverent. I am sure that to some it will sound ‘clunky.’ Hey ho, as they say. I used to pray (rather than say) EPI a number of Sundays each year from the sacramentary, but did it once in the 2011 text only to find I couldn’t really pray it. Fr. Bless this offering, we pray, O God. And so, Lord God, we your ministers and your holy people celebrate the memorial of Christ your Son our Lord. I would be interested to get reactions to this, and I have my hard hat handy. The Sacramentary EP I was pure poetry. Let my tongue cling to the roof of my mouth, if I do not remember you, if I do not set Jerusalem above my highest joy. 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