© 2021 by Gaijin Games Kft. 1. ( not that the reason for it is its Gun). M39s have noticably bigger spread. Again,references the use of different clamps for differnt use.I do recall reading that it was 14-16 mil for the air-to-air clamp somewhere,but i would have to find that one again. ( not that the reason for it is its Gun). Yes and it will be even worse if they have to contend with the M61. if thier efficiceny was  really on par with one another. 37mm doesnt mean much if the ROF is so slow and has so little ammo. Jul 15, 2012 - First flight of the Aviamilano F.260 trainer 15/7 1964. T160s Overheat ridociously fast. War History of the 20th century, Driving/Flying fast, Anime, Painting user skins, etc... somewhere on Earth, or perhaps inside it? IN any case M61 Vulcans Stayed in service over 3 generations ( 2ng generation Aircraft,  century series lie the F104, F105, , 3rd generation A/CF4E , F111, and was mounted throught All 4th generation fighters ( F16, F14, F/A18, F15) and was also mounted on F22 Raptor a 5th generation plane. By [45], Powerplant: 1 × Rolls-Royce Spey 807 turbofan (11,030 lbf, 5,300 kgf), Maximum speed: 1,053 km/h (654 mph, 568 knots) at 10,975 m (36,000 ft), Guns: 1 × 20 mm M61A1 Vulcan (Italian aircraft), Rockets: Hydra-70 rockets in rocket pods (taken from G.91), Bombs: 3,800 kg (8,380 lb) (Mk 82, Mk 83 and Mk 84 bombs), I think this aircraft would be a great addition to the Italian tier 5 line after the F-84G due to its strike capabilities and performance, https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=464 (specifications and design and development), http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/amx-fighter-bomber/ (specifications), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX_International_AMX (specifications layout), https://www.fighter-planes.com/info/amx.htm (specifications), http://www.avialogs.com/viewer/avi flight manual, Thank you  I was skeptic about this getting approved. Externally the AMX is given high-mounted monoplane wings, twin air intakes, and a single engine installation. Viability studies were already concluded by Alenia, Aermacchi, and Elettronica and in December of 1997 a contract was signed for completing its configuration, which will include a avionics revision, installation of GPS and of coloured LCD displays with mobile maps for the electronic systems operator in the rear-seat. Alenia is now offering to South Africa the Super AMX, equipped with new avionics and a new turbine - Eurojet EJ200, the same that will equip Eurofighter. With the F2 sabre you cant  continuouslyeven fire all your ammo without overheating. 100 17 November 2020 Dagor Engine 6.0: Verbesserte visuelle und permanente Effekte und DLSS Wir fahren fort und besprechen wieder die Verbesserungen im Erscheinungsbild des Spiels, die die überarbeitete Grafik-Engine Dagor Engine 6.0 im nächsten großen Update. (War Thunder Tanks Gameplay) May 20, 2017 War Thunder 18:44. .It also maximizes the probability of hitting in the first place,and compensates for errors on the pilot´s end to a degree,aswell as for the recoil pulling the gun off-target. One of the main characteristics of the AMX is the existent redundancy in its electric, hydraulic and avionics systems. War Thunder is an MMO dedicated to World War II military aviation. Heres the Flight Manual´s for the various AMX´s: http://www.avialogs.com/viewer/avialogs-documentviewer.php?id=2242, http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/aircraft/italy/aermacchi/amx/2243todo.html, http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/aircraft/italy/aermacchi/amx/2241todo.html, No it's not lol for example the Hunter climbs at 55 m/s with full load, 60 m/s with minimum load, Other top tier jets won't have any problems competing with it in climb rate and top speed. They Still shred Fighters apart. http://www.hill.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/397315/vulcan-20mm-rotary-cannon/. EpicBlitzkrieg87, December 8, 2017 in Passed for Consideration. I like to sing, dance, pretained but i like hafing fun, fun, fun, fun, fffuuunn. Saw “first flight in 1984” and voted no. Honestly-if you fire that long enough to overheat,something generally went very wrong.Now with the M61 in this case,sure,you can fire longer.But keep in mind-350 rounds.you have around 3.8 seconds of continous fire,and then you are out.If you waste most of that spraying around (which,if you fire enough that you get the F2 to overheat,is most likely the case),you get one kill at most before you run dry. Twitch.tv/pieve16. Other versions of Spey equipped the maritime patrol aircraft Hawker Siddeley Nimrod and the British FG.1 and FGR.2 versions of the McDonnell-Douglas Phantom II. Modern Planes are built from alimunum. Because its cheaper to buy those things that to develope own.Point was-basically everything non-US uses a larger caliber for their designs.The Brits had their ADEN and switched to the BK-27 when it came around,the French had their DEFA and then developed the GIAT 30,the Germans put DEFA´s on their G.91´s and then developed the BK27 for the next designs they participated in,the Italians started with .50s,then went on to DEFA´s and finally also jumped on the BK27 train.Meanwhile the Russians started with 23+37,found it inefficient,switched to 30s,then to 23s,and then back to 30s because they apparently found the 23 to not do sufficient damage. Main armament: 105 mm BK MECA (F2) L/48 (38 rounds) 105 mm gun: Engine: Baudouin Diesel Model 6F11 SRX 280 hp (208.8 kW) IVECO, V6 turbo-Diesel 520 hp (382 kW) ( save for some exceptions), © 2021 by Gaijin Games Kft. As said-some like it one way,some the other.Some prefer to one-tap kill their target,some prefer to hose it down.Some prefer precision,some prefer volume of fire.As for the rest,see above. 21,056 views (746 votes, average: 4.91 out of 5) Its reinforced landing gear as well as the Speys power all combine to ease the take-off and landing on unprepared runways (the distance for take-off weighing 10,500 Kg is of approximately 760 m). As all those systems are duplicated, with physical separation of certain elements as the cabling and actuators, it is expected that the aircraft is capable to complete the mission in case any of those systems suffer a failure. So? Pros. The test programme was restarted with the flight of the second prototype, A.02 MM X595, on 19 November 1984; the third prototype, A.03 MM X596 accomplished its first flight on 28 January 1985 and it was used for the avionics and armament development. 82 type bombs), unguided rockets, laser-guided intelligent bombs, air-ground and anti-radar missiles and laser target designators. The subsonic AMX International AMX (known as the "Gibli" to the Italian Air Force) was the result of cooperation between two Italian (Aeritalia - now Alenia - and Aermacchi) and one Brazilian (Embraer) aircraft firms. exactly. The production of AMX is distributed among the three participant companies; each one has its own assembly line, with the different components being transported from a company to the others, for the final assembly. ( and still is to this day even more so due to greater lethality of modern missiles), No country has the Budget that US has. © 2021 by Gaijin Games Kft. AS well Big aid for  bombing ( via CCIP and/ or CCRP modes). This requirement was seen as an appropriate replacement for Italy's aging fleet of American-originated Lockheed F-104 "Starfighters" and Italian Aeritalia G.91 series aircraft. For example, in case the hydraulic system develops a fault, electric accumulators allow the operation of the landing gear, brakes and the front wheel, allowing for a smooth transition to the manual control of the elevators and ailerons. F86F Sabrs and SUper sabre would have had mere radar ranging   A4 model gunsights. THROWING MORE GRENADES, HOLDING TWILIGHT GAP, TRASHTALKING THOSE DAMN ROOKIES! Not too high for a top tier jet and not too low; in the middle. ... with only two prototypes (the two AMX 50 ; they can be removed if needed), this is the most historical solution. How can a Vulcan make a plane with mediocre speed an OP vehicle? This,by the way,is basically why everyone else prefers revolvers or recoil-operated designs-Instantly or nearly instantly reaching full RoF means that get more rounds on the way incase you only have a short window of opportunity,and it also means that you get more rounds out before the recoil starts to pull you off-target.This also relates to why everyone except the US, Except that the US designs are some of the most exported aircraft. The programme foresaw the construction of six prototypes, two of the which mounted and tested in Brazil. It is a nice looking aircraft and seems like a great ground attacker for BR 9.0. How would the climb rate be game-breaking? They Still shred Fighters apart. They sadly dont get any Faster Firing guns until the Mig19S with triple 30mm. Include 1 War Thunder Promo Codes & 34 War Thunder Coupons, Get these coupons to help you save more money, enjoy saving up to 60% off,today latest coupons:Exclusive War Thunder Deals and Offers October 2020 High-quality Amx pillows, tapestries, mugs, blankets, shower curtains, aprons, jigsaw puzzles, and magnets by independent artists. Umbriellan and me are two members of the french community of War Thunder, ... et qu’elle serait ajoutée au sein de l’arbre international. They never had missile capabiltity until past a certain productin batch. Development of the aircraft began with just the two Italian companies in 1978 after the Italian Air Force put forth a requirement for a advanced multi-role platform with inherent reconnaissance capabilities. Oh,it will get the job done alright.Its just that the 27 or 30´s can do it with less ammo and less time. prefers guns in the 30mm range-More damage in a short time,less of a chance for the target to get away.Also why they usually have really small ammo reserves-you dont need much ammo if all you need is 5-10 hits at most to kill whatever you shoot at.A 20mm is going to need about 4-5 times as much to get the same result,and therefore,you need to have more ammunition. The Italian name, "Ghibli", is taken from the hot dry wind of the Libyan desert. Amx 30. 10 tanks and 2 aircraft destroyed Ac MK. No can tell you that from  both research and expereince playing various sims M61 is more effective a2a option  to the x4  M39. Approaching runway 27. The problem is no nation has any rotary cannons or Auto canons. They can afford to research and  settle for the best gun, best Electronics,  Best Radar, in larger more expensive airframes to house it all. Another characteristic that contributes to its ease of operation is the use of line replacement units (LRUs) on the flight line, whose eventual failures are detected through the built-in test equipment (BITE). By The detailed definition phase of the project was completed in March 1980. IF the hunter could turn with MIgs and sabres with that same top speed, and climb yes the Plane would be OP. Yup this is best analogy Whereas your old caddy is a still luxyuary ride, it is largely Analog displays, and very basic sensors. War Thunder Easy Mode – Russian Matilda Really This Easy!? Like nothing Else thus far in war thunder would come close to the ROF of the M61 in an aircraft. They dont,but depending on the use,you actually want that spread with the 20s.To give the example,heres your M61 in the M167 application: https://books.google.de/books?id=jy0YAAAAYAAJ&pg=SA1-PA1&lpg=SA1-PA1&dq=20mm+Vulcan+dispersion+pattern&source=bl&ots=meproeTsai&sig=DDuslRzSgBG5lssfykZfSFr761k&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi___mmjJTYAhXLKMAKHXvlCngQ6AEIXTAJ#v=onepage&q=20mm Vulcan dispersion pattern&f=false. The aircraft were then produced under the "AMX International" brand label. And even if it was excessive, the top speed would be very limited which is more important in jet combat because speed in a straight line is more important than climbing in jet combat. Amx 13. Coming into the program in 1980, the Brazilian Air Force joined the venture to fulfill a similar local air force requirement. Not to mention when think of its ITs avionics, o the fact  It even has a Fly By wire control system. 52 m/s is good but not too high. 13 óráig tart. For 3rd Person RB this will mean adding an arcade style bombing Cross. Available in a range of colours and styles for men, women, and everyone. for Aerial combat if no one else has something like this. A very modern attack helicopter but against the KA-50? Apart from a A2A reticule it means CCIP/CCRP bombing modes, which are going to make bombing really easy. Aviation, Russian aircraft (MiGs) and history. The pilot sits down in high position, offering a good view around the airplane. Determined to fulfill this requirement with an all-indigenous fighter design, Aermacchi and Aeritalia set to work on what would become the "AMX". Besides, and they offer amazing customer service, you’ll absolutely love shopping at War Thunder. First of all, it’s got the long-awaited gun stabilizer. The tail is of traditional design, with the single fin and mobile elevators being similar to those of the Tornado. © 2021 by Gaijin Games Kft. An in-flight refueling probe, equipped with a spotlight at the base of the probe, may be installed by the right side of the cockpit. So yea I still feel the M61 vulcan is simply too good to be on a 9.0 jet that has good enough performance that it can tangle with fighters, even if its behind in Raw top speed. Peace, Equality, you thinking Rationally and responding in a Succinct, Coherent, and Informed manner, Without sacrifice there is no victory Tervezzük csökkenteni a radaros, magas szintű légvédelmek hatékonyságát, hogy azok ne legyenek akkora hatással a csatákra. Primary  information like Speed, altitude, and Pitch are indicated in HUD. Félidőben kaptunk egy új Q&A-t.Válaszol: Vyacheslav Bulannikov Földi járművek Megoldható, hogy a radaros légvédelmeknél a célzás rásegítés csak irányzó nézetben legyen használható? You know that 52 m/s is not excessive for the game, right? ( liek Check engine lights if something gos wrong), and hydralically boosted Power steering. Those cannons are also used in the ground-attack rôle, primary function of the aircraft. To replace A.01, an additional prototype was built, A.11 MM X597, which flew on 24 May 1985. 1. All nations have autocannons.Basically anything 20mm and above is a Autocannon.Hell,some consider 15mm and up autocannons.Now,do the other nations have Gatlings?No.But most have revolvercannons.The only exceptions here so far: Germany (might get two planes with those,G.91R.3 and Alphajet,seeing as it just went PTD) and Russia.Russia being literally the only nation that has any issues in regards to guns,but thats been that way ever since the F2 entered the Airspace.Which in turn is generally considered worse than the Hunter when it comes to firepower,largely because the quad ADEN´s are much more reliable at putting stuff down,even if you only hit with a handful of rounds. More than 5,500 units were sold internationally; the version that equips AMX is tested and set up in Italy by FIAT/Piaggio and in Brazil by CELMA. wonder how good it can turn and immelman. Also the F86F2 Gunval sabre is using A prototype of what would become the M39  ( T160). Even if guns are backup in a missile era, its a testament to the M61 vulcans effectivness that a replacement has not been made  all these years and that F35 is the first  frontline plane in long time to get a different gun. But my post will get burried under forest of "+1s", http://www.flight-manuals-online.com/product/alenia-embraer-amx/. Again obvious. Rather than competing for the contract, Aeritalia (now Alenia Aeronautica) and Aermacchi agreed to make a joint proposal, as both firms had been considering the development of a similar class of aircraft for some years. Adens followed by 2nd placeT160s  are hands down superior to the Mig15 and Mig17s gun options for fighter vs fighter engagements in particular. Strike fighter 2 an old game has gunval sabre as well as M39 based platforms like the F100A/C/D. The only reasons Those "other" nations ( Russia In particular) is because many built smaller , lighter planes and guns at the end of the day were considered  secondary armament to missiles in the post Korean Era. Again obvious. Crew accommodations varied depending on the model in question and could either be a single pilot or pilot with systems operator seated in tandem. Very nice special colours. ( save for some exceptions). M61's wouldnt have Replaced th  quad M39s confirguration. In ground-attack missions, AMX may be equipped with conventional bombs (a typical load consists of six low-drag Mk. If you bring in the M61 its basically asking to add in stuff to compete with it. For its self-defence, AMX is equipped with two air-air infrared guided missiles on wingtip rails as well as, in the Brazilian version, two DEFA 30mm cannons installed in the lower front fuselage (the Italian version carries a General Electric M61A1 Vulcan 20mm cannon, in the left lower front fuselage). The AMX was never an export success, being sold only to the two participant countries of the programme, contrary to what was expected. An agreement was also struck to divide AMX manufacturing between the partners; for each production aircraft, Aeritalia manufactured 46.5% of the components (central fuselage, stabilisers and rudders), Aermacchi produced 22.8% (front fuselage and tail cone), and Embraer performed 29.7% of the work (wing, air intakes, pylons and drop tanks). ( Faster than production M39s)  nor do they or M39s have as good accuracy as the M61. This,by the way,is basically why everyone else prefers revolvers or recoil-operated designs-Instantly or nearly instantly reaching full RoF means that get more rounds on the way incase you only have a short window of opportunity,and it also means that you get more rounds out before the recoil starts to pull you off-target.This also relates to why everyone except the US prefers guns in the 30mm range-More damage in a short time,less of a chance for the target to get away.Also why they usually have really small ammo reserves-you dont need much ammo if all you need is 5-10 hits at most to kill whatever you shoot at.A 20mm is going to need about 4-5 times as much to get the same result,and therefore,you need to have more ammunition. 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